Fresh Off Saudi Cup Win, John Gosden Joins TDN Writers’ Room

Three days after racking up yet another monumental win in a career chock full of them, legendary trainer John Gosden joined the TDN Writers' Room podcast presented by Keeneland Tuesday morning. Calling in via Zoom as the Green Group Guest of the Week, Gosden explained how he got Saudi Cup hero Mishriff (Ire) (Make Believe {GB}) to be as brilliant on dirt as he is on turf, what made his five-time champion Enable (GB) (Nathaniel {Ire}) such a phenomenon, how his roots of training in California in the 1980s informed the rest of his career and much more.

Asked about what it takes to get a horse to perform at a top level on multiple surfaces as Mishriff has done, Gosden said, “I think you've got to have the individual. You've got to have a horse that obviously handles the surface, but also the one that has the courage to face the kickback. And I think that's very much the issue. I had many good turf horses in California that could work a mile in a great time on the main track on their own in the morning, but put them in a race in the afternoon and they couldn't tolerate the dirt. They lose their breathing, their rhythm, everything. So, you need a horse with courage.”

Regarding what else made the difference for Mishriff against top American dirt horses Charlatan (Speightstown) and Knicks Go (Paynter) in the Saudi Cup, Gosden commented, “I think one thing is very clear, and I think Bob [Baffert] might have said this: the long straight at Riyadh made a big difference to us, because we are used to straights of two, three, four furlongs in distance. To that extent, he really relished the two-and-a-half furlong straight, which I think in the end just caught Charlatan out in that last 100 meters. So that type of track very much suits him.”

On what he's looking at for the rest of Mishriff's campaign and whether or not it will include a shot in the GI Breeders' Cup Classic, Gosden said, “We plan obviously to be running him here in races like the Eclipse Stakes. We may even consider looking at a race at the end of the year like The Arc. As regards to Del Mar, of course, that's to be discussed on the agenda. Having trained and had a lot of fun at Del Mar, I know it very well. The track and the finish line is quite a long way away from the clubhouse turn. It's quite a short straight. So that would probably be something that would be a positive for horses like Knicks Go and Charlatan and maybe not such a positive for us.”

Elsewhere on the show, the writers conducted their 2021 fantasy 3-year-old draft, checked in with TDN European Editor Emma Berry for more on the Saudi Cup and, in the West Point Thoroughbreds news segment, reacted to the huge news of three top stallion farms suing The Jockey Club over its 140-mare cap. Click here to watch the podcast; click here for the audio-only version.

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NTRA CEO Alex Waldrop Joins TDN Writers’ Room

There's plenty to talk about in racing these days, and NTRA CEO Alex Waldrop joined the TDN Writers' Room presented by Keeneland Wednesday morning to dig into a good deal of the sport's most pressing topics. Calling in via Zoom as the Green Group Guest of the Week, Waldrop talked about how to capitalize and sustain the positive handle trends of the past year, how to pay for the groundbreaking Horseracing Integrity and Safety Act, what movement he expects on H-2B visas with a new administration and more.

“Looking back over the last quarter and even the last half of last year, we were trending five, six, seven percent up over the prior year,” Waldrop said of the increase in handle the sport has seen. “So those trends are very positive. I do think they are related to the fact that new people are coming into the business. They're seeing horse racing as a viable option for the first time. I think that is attributable to a lot of the marketing dollars that were spent in 2020 to get eyeballs on our racing for the first time. And I think that's the way we keep this going. We continue to show our races on television, get more people in front of TV sets, mobile screens, all the distribution channels that we have out there, which are many now and are growing. That's the way to continue to grow.”

“Another way that I think we have to look at in 2021 is to get on more sports betting platforms,” he continued. “Sports betting is spreading across the country. It's a huge and growing business. If we can just get 5% of the number of people who are now betting on these mobile sports betting apps, that would be a huge win for horse racing. And I think in 2021, this is the year to really focus on what we can do to to piggyback on the success of sports betting in this country. To grow our visibility even greater.”

Asked about the tricky issue of funding HISA, Waldrop said that replacing the inefficiencies of racing's current patchwork regulation system will lead to savings on its own.

“HISA and the Authority, is all about centralizing the administration of medication control and racing safety matters. Putting it into one office. There will be significant savings. There'll be efficiencies when you compare costs that we now have for 30 state agencies,” he said. “I think 10 years ago we were spending almost $30 million a year on post race drug testing. That's an astronomical number. I don't think people realized we were spending that much money on drug testing. We're spending more than that now under the 30 state agencies. The second thing to remember is that HISA contemplates a broader-based and more equitable contribution from all industry participants, so not just one group or one tax will be paying for the costs of regulation.”

Elsewhere on the show, the writers reacted to a strong weekend of stakes at Fair Grounds, highlighted some key points from last week's exclusive interview with USADA CEO Travis Tygart and, in the West Point Thoroughbreds news segment, analyzed the passage of a historical horse racing legalization bill in the Kentucky House of Representatives. Click here to watch the podcast; click here for the audio-only version.

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Risen Star: Relationship Building Brings O Besos, West Point Thoroughbreds Together

Jeff Lifson, the executive vice president of West Point Thoroughbreds, always knew when the young, up and coming horseman Travis Foley made the call for him to buy into a horse, it would be for the right reason. It may have taken a bit longer than both had anticipated, but a partnership long in the making finally came to fruition this winter when West Point bought into Foley's Tagg Team Racing and Barrett Bernard's lightly raced O Besos, who has the look of a major contender in Saturday's $400,000 Risen Star (G2) at Fair Grounds in New Orleans, La.

Lifson met Foley, trainer Greg Foley's son and assistant, several years ago on the backstretch at Churchill Downs and a friendship was born. Greg Foley has long been a Kentucky mainstay and West Point has long been the same on the national scene. The Foley family routinely sells an interest in their horses, and West Point has never shied from getting a piece of a nice prospect. A mutually beneficial relationship made perfect sense.

“I've gotten to know Travis over the years because we've had horses with Dale Romans and their barns are right near each other (at Churchill),” Lifson said. “They've always wanted to find a horse to get in with West Point because I think they like how we work, so we've tried to connect over the years. Travis called me a day or so before Christmas and said, 'I think I've got one for you.'”

The “one” was O Besos, a son of Orb who had run a troubled, but encouraging, sixth on debut November 11 at Churchill, making up several lengths in the stretch after a tardy beginning. He used that experience builder as a prelude to his maiden win December 20 in his Fair Grounds debut, when he settled in fourth early before exploding late for a 5 ½-length win going 5 ½ furlongs.

Foley knew the time was right to reach out to Lifson, who was immediately intrigued.

“I watched the replay and everything kind of came together,” Lifson said. “I told Terry (Finley, West Point president and CEO) to watch the race and he was excited too. Even the Churchill sixth was a good race. Travis and I trust each other and they only want to enhance the relationship, so if they didn't like the horse, they wouldn't have called.”

West Point reached the pinnacle of the sport in 2017 when Always Dreaming, a horse they bought into prior to his win in the Florida Derby (G1), won the Kentucky Derby, which added to a trophy case that includes countless other graded stakes wins. Still, Lifson knows things aren't always as they seem, and buying into a young horse can be filled with pitfalls, too. With O Besos, who showed maturity beyond his years while settling behind horses and kicking clear late in his races, he knew West Point was getting a colt with a future that was squarely in front of him.

“You always worry about being late and not first to the party,” Lifson said. “Sometimes it works out fine, but other times they don't pan out. You're always guessing 'Is this the one?' But for a young horse, you couldn't ask for a better education. A lot of times a young horse will gun early, improve their position, and just bury others, but you don't always know what you have. Our best horses of all-time have not necessarily been the go to the lead types. If you want to dream the dream, you have to have a horse that has no problem with the challenges they will get during a race.”

West Point bought into O Besos after his maiden win and he ran for the new partnership for the first time in a local January 17 allowance. He again broke a step slow, trailed the six-horse field early, then once again powered home late, this time between horses, while winning by 2 ¼ lengths and getting the six furlongs in a sharp 1:10.57. Once again O Besos showed he doesn't need things his own way to deliver a top performance, which impressed Foley.

“In the 1X, I didn't really know how he ended up where he did, but in the aftermath, we're glad he did, we got a really good schooling, had to go in between horses,” Foley said. “That was a nice group too, and he pretty much beat them in a gallop.”

O Besos gets thrown into the deep end of the pool in the 1 1/8-mile Risen Star, as he'll run past 6 ½ furlongs and try two turns for the first time. As a son of Orb, who won the Derby in 2013, he's certainly bred for the added ground, and has a running style that figures to appreciate distance as well, though Foley knows you have to run them to find out for sure.

“The big question is whether or not he can stretch (out), especially going from three quarters to a mile and an eighth, but he looks like he's really getting going right at the end,” Foley said. “Some closing sprinters will fool you, but he deserves the chance. He has to prove it but he leads you to believe he will do it. If he can do it, great, if not, there's a lot of other options too.”

West Point have been down this path before—literally—as their stretch-running Commanding Curve was sixth in the 2014 Risen Star before building off that to run third in the Louisiana Derby before running second in the Kentucky Derby. Lifson won't complain if lightning were to strike twice.

“Ideally, we hope he'll handle two turns, run well, and we'll take the next step to the (March 20) Louisiana Derby,” Lifson said.” You can't argue with the Risen Star since we have a nice horse who has won a couple of races over that track. It's all a progression and we're hoping he can take it.”

O Besos is part of a robust 13-horse Risen Star field that is by far the deepest and most competitive Kentucky Derby prep to date, and it will award a total of 85 Derby qualifying points (50-20-10-5).

The field, from the rail out, with jockeys and trainers, is as follows:
Trainer Dallas Stewart Racing Stable's and WinStar Farm's homebred Starrininmydreams (post 1 with Brian Hernandez Jr.);
Godolphin's homebred Proxy (post 2 with John Velazquez for Mike Stidham);
Marylou Whitney Stables' homebred Beep Beep (post 3 with Miguel Mena for Norm Casse);
Greg Tramontin, Joel Politi, Brittlyn Stable, and Asaro Enterprises' Carillo (post 4 with James Graham for Tom Amoss);
Joe Peacock Jr.'s homebred Senor Buscador (post 5 with Luis Quinonez for Todd Fincher);
Winchell Thoroughbreds' Midnight Bourbon (post 6 with Joe Talamo for Steve Asmussen);
Barrett Bernard, Tagg Team Racing, and West Point Thoroughbreds' O Besos (post 7 with Marcelino Pedroza for Greg Foley);
Kevin Porter's Sermononthemount (post 8 with Declan Carroll for Tim Dixon);
Nice Guys Stables, Manganaro Bloodstock, and Steve Hornstock's Defeater (post 9 with Dean Saenz for Amoss);
Calumet Farm's homebred Santa Cruiser (post 10 with Adam Beschizza for Keith Desormeaux);
Juddmonte Farms' homebred Mandaloun (post 11 with Florent Geroux for Brad Cox);
Cypress Creek Equine, Arnold Bennewith, and Spendthrift Farm's Keepmeinmind (post 12 with David Cohen for Robertino Diodoro);
Wayne T. Davis' Rightandjust (post 13 with Mitchell Murrill for Shane Wilson).

 

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Bloodstock Agent Liz Crow Joins Writers’ Room

On a monumental day in her personal life, star bloodstock agent Liz Crow joined the TDN Writers' Room presented by Keeneland Wednesday for an in-depth discussion. Calling in via Zoom as the Green Group Guest of the Week, Crow talked about her pride in the enormous success of her now dual-champion $100,000 purchase Monomoy Girl (Tapizar), the status of the sale market after a tumultuous 2020, what traits she looks for when buying horses and much more.

“She's taken us on an incredible ride to so many different racetracks and experiences and has done so much for my career,” Crow said of Monomoy Girl, who was named Champion Older Female at last week's Eclipse Awards after taking the Champion 3-Year-Old Filly title two years ago. “It's felt like a family because we've spent so much time together rooting her on. All of us get so nervous. Brad Cox, that's the only horse he legs the jockey up on. His heart is pounding out of his chest for the entire post parade. We all feel that way. It's been one of those stories that's never going to be topped for all of us that have gotten to experience her. And Spendthrift running her next year, it's so good for racing. She's a comeback story.”

Asked about her approach to buying horses, Crow said, “The most important thing for me is to be thorough. I have a team of short-listers, and a team of people that help organize me at a sale. If there are 4,320 horses, we look at all 4,320 of them. We consider all of them, no matter the pedigree, the consignor, the breeder. We go through the process on each horse. As far as when the individual comes out, the first thing I like to look at is their attitude. So often we can forget that these horses are not machines. The way they act in the paddock, the post parade, loading in the gate, the way they're handled in the barn, all that really matters. Then from there, I start looking at their conformation, assessing them from their hip to shoulder, to the way their neck sits in their shoulder. The walk is a little bit overrated to me, especially at 2-year-old sales when you get to see them gallop and breeze. The way they move on the track is so much more important.”

Elsewhere on the show, the crew remembered legendary New Jersey horseman John Forbes, reacted to the major 3-year-old preps of the weekend and, in the West Point Thoroughbreds news segment, provided updates on the historical horse racing story and Knicks Go (Paynter) heading to the Saudi Cup. Click here to watch the podcast; click here for the audio-only version.

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