D. Wayne and Laurie Lukas Join ‘Let’s Talk’

    The TDN's 'Let's Talk'–a podcast series featuring TDN's Christina Bossinakis and TVG's on-air analyst Gabby Gaudet, offers candid discussion on personal and professional issues often faced within the racing community.

   The latest edition features Hall of Fame horseman D. Wayne Lukas, who collected his latest Grade I victory with Secret Oath in the May 6 Kentucky Oaks.

Wayne Lukas is no stranger to success. Inducted into racing's Hall of Fame in 1999, the Antigo, Wisconsin native has spent over four decades reshaping and even defining the sport of horse racing. And while the victories may not be as plentiful as they may have once been, the 86-year-old continues to find himself on center stage on the big days, as was the case with Secret Oath when running fourth in the latest running of the GI Preakness S. While many other octogenarians are content with enjoying the fruits of their labors in retirement, Lukas continues to forge ahead with the same passion and intensity that he displayed during the zenith of his training career.

“I still get up at 3:30 every morning and now at my age, that alarm doesn't go off–I usually beat it,” he said. “But if it does go off, at 3:30 in the morning at my age, you might [want to] tip back and say, 'Woah boy.” But I refuse to let myself do that. I refuse to let the old man in.”

Well lauded for the string of assistants who have gone on to become top-level trainers in their own right, Lukas remains very forthright about the influence he has tried to exact over his team throughout the years. The one-time basketball coach underscored that it wasn't only the star graduates like Todd Pletcher, Kiaran McLaughlin, Dallas Stewart, et al that he tried to mentor, but also the ones that may not have been able to reach the heights of some of their contemporaries. Often referred to as 'The Coach,' Lukas has certainly earned that moniker.

“It bothered me that I was able to develop six or seven kids and give them a certain experience and there were seven or eight or 10 on the team that I really couldn't influence in that area,” he explained. “They just weren't good enough but they were good, hard-working kids. Kids that had the dream as much as the ones that were playing. And it always bothered me a little bit. I tried to influence all my players.”

And that philosophy branched over to racing.

“So when I got into horse racing, I was very upset if we had two or three horses that didn't turn out, especially if I bought them. And I wanted to make everyone of them profitable.”

Also during the discussion, Lukas addressed several of the pressures of training, often magnified with age, and many of the present-day player's tendency to migrate toward a younger trainer with a higher win percentage.

He said, “When you get to my age, most people wonder, is he out? Is he still doing it? They often turn to a younger person.”

Later in the program, Lukas is joined by his wife, Laurie. Candid about her first impression of Lukas, the lifelong horsewoman was quick to point out that the man was, in many ways, quite different than that of his public persona.

“When I first met him, it was just a chance meeting and I wasn't super impressed..I thought he was really full of himself,” she admitted. “I'd known of him for years and years like everyone else. I just thought he had a bit of an ego.”

She continued, “But the first time we had a conversation on the phone, it was a totally different deal. He has so much depth. The conversations were fascinating. He's so engaging and very intelligent. And that was my surprise. I didn't expect that.”

And what makes the relationship work?

“I have such great respect for her as a horseperson,” affirmed Lukas. “I don't have to go home at night and hold a clinic or a seminar on what we're trying to do or where we're trying t go.”

Laurie added, “We both get it. I understand that passion and that drive. And I won't be complaining about why we can't go to dinner tonight or why we can't do this or that because I get it. That really helps.”

The show is sponsored by 1/ST Racing and Healthnetics.

To watch the entire 'Let's Talk' podcast, click here. And for the audio only version, click here.

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TDN Snippets: Week of May 1-8

It was a hectic week in the Thoroughbred business with all eyes firmly focussed on Louisville, Kentucky. Here are some facts and figures that you might have missed in the rush.

Record Numbers…

Wagering from all-sources on the Kentucky Derby (single race) totaled $179 million, up 15% over 2021 and up 8% from the previous record of $166.5-million set in 2019. This year's wagering record includes $8.3 million of handle put through the window in Japan.

The Smart Strike Factor…

As a broodmare sire, Smart Strike has the distinction of having two of the four biggest longshots in history to win the Derby with Mine That Bird (Birdstone), who paid $103.20 in 2009, and now Rich Strike at $163.60. Rich Strike is actually inbred 3×2 to the former Lane's End stallion.

Five And Counting…

It was a long time between Kentucky Oaks wins, but Hall of Famer D. Wayne Lukas now has five to his credit. Blush With Pride (1982), Lucky Lucky Lucky (1984), Open Mind (1989), Seaside Attraction (1990). Will Secret Oath (Arrogate) prove to be the best yet?

Galileo's Week in Europe…

This week has taken the form of a prolonged tribute to the late, great Galileo. After clinching the worldwide stakes record from Danehill (347) only last week, the floodgates have well and truly opened since then, and Sadler's Wells's finest son now sits on 353. Not sure all records are made to be broken?

The New Ghostzapper?…

In the post-race interview, Chad Brown compared undefeated 'TDN Rising Star' Jack Christopher (Munnings) to Hall of Famer Ghostzapper (Awesome Again), who Brown worked with while under the tutelage of Bobby Frankel. “This horse reminds me a lot of Ghostzapper, I was fortunate to work with that horse, he moves about the same as him and that one had a few rough patches as well.” Music to the ears of Jim Bakke, Gerry Isbister, Coolmore Stud and White Birch Farm.

A Curlin Graded Double For Mott…

Hall of Famer Bill Mott registered a graded-stakes triple over the weekend, including a pair of Curlin offspring for two of the world's premier breeding operations. At Churchill Saturday afternoon, Juddmonte Farms' Obligatory flashed home for a breakthrough Grade I success in the Derby City Distaff, while in New York a few hours later, Godolphin's Cody's Wish was a towering winner of the GIII Westchester S., a course-and-distance lead-up for the GI Hill 'n' Dale Metropolitan H. on Belmont Day June 11. Mott also won Friday's GII Alysheba S. with the progressive Olympiad (Speightstown).

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Zozos Leads Derby, Oaks Workers at Churchill

'TDN Rising Star' Zozos (Munnings), most recently runner-up to Epicenter (Not This Time) in the GII Louisiana Derby Mar. 26, continued his preparations for the May 7 GI Kentucky Derby with a five-furlongs work that was timed in 1:00.20 Friday morning at Churchill Downs.

Breezing in the company of his GI Longines Kentucky Oaks-bound stablemate Turnerloose (Nyquist), the Barry and Joni Butzow homebred was out at 5:30 a.m. and broke off about a length behind the GII Rachel Alexandra S. heroine before galloping along through fractions of :24 flat and :48.40. The move began at the half-mile pole and concluded with Zozos on even terms with Turnerloose at the seven-eighths marker. Zozos galloped out three-quarters of a mile in 1:13.60.

“He's a really smart horse,” said jockey Florent Geroux, who will ride Zozos's GI Arkansas Derby-winning stablemate Cyberknife (Gun Runner) in the Derby. “He's starting to come into his own and it was a really nice work this morning. I settled back of [Turnerloose] and he finished up nicely with her. Both horses worked well.”

 

 

 

Hidden Brook Farm and Black Type Thoroughbreds' Hidden Connection (Connect) came out shortly after the Cox pair and covered a similar distance in 1:00 flat, pulling up six furlongs in a strong 1:12.60 with ReyLu Gutierrez aboard, who said the work was “awesome.”

Secret Oath (Arrogate) will face her peers in the Oaks, having finished third to Cyberknife and Barber Road (Race Day) in the Arkansas Derby and returned to the tab Friday morning. The Briland Farm homebred was timed in a slick :59.20 (:12.40, :23.60, :35.20), and Luis Saez, who takes over from Luis Contreras for the Oaks, was in to put the filly through her paces.

“I talked to [jockey] Luis [Contreras] after the race and he was sort of surprised with how much of an explosive kick she had at the three-eighths pole,” said Hall of Famer D. Wayne Lukas, whose last Oaks victory came courtesy of Overbrook Farm's Seaside Attraction (Seattle Slew) in 1990. “With that explosive kick at that point in the race, it was a little too much too soon. She got shuffled back at the start and got into contention but it was too much to ask. We ran in the Arkansas Derby for a million-and-a-quarter [dollars] and I thought we were the best horse going into the race and I still think we were the best.”

 

 

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Kentucky Derby Notes: ‘All The Heavy Lifting Is Done’

Galloping and jogging over a track listed as good dominated the morning activity on the day before the 147th running of the $3 million Kentucky Derby presented by Woodford Reserve (G1).

BOURBONIC, DYNAMIC ONE, KNOWN AGENDA, SAINTHOOD – Trainer Todd Pletcher put the finishing touches on his Derby colts Friday morning, getting the quartet out early for final gallops prior to their Saturday date with destiny in the form of a mile and a quarter.

Three of his charges were among the first horses on the track, ambling over from Barn 42 and going through the six-furlong gap at 5:15 for mile and a quarter gallops. Known Agenda had his regular exercise rider, Hector Ramos, in the tack; Dynamic One was partnered by Carlos Perez Quevedo, and Sainthood had old buddy Amelia Green aboard.

After that trio got back home safely, the barn's final Derby contender – Bourbonic with Ramos up – set out at 5:40 for a mile and three-sixteenths spin that completed the handiwork.

“All the heavy lifting is done,” the trainer said. “They'll all walk the shed(row) tomorrow.”

Pletcher's father, Jake, was on the scene enjoying the Derby buzz. He fills out the family rooting section that also consists of the trainer's wife, Tracy, and his three college-age children, two boys (Texas A & M guys) and a daughter (Wake Forest).

Pletcher, of course, has history with the Kentucky Derby. Quite a bit, in fact.

He's started 55 horses in the race and after Saturday that record mark will rise to 59. Next on that list is his mentor, D. Wayne Lukas, with 49.

And starting four horses in America's Most Famous Race is a big deal, surely, but it's not that big a deal down at the Pletcher barn. This will be the fifth time he's started a quartet (2000, 2010, 2014 and 2018). Just for toppers, he set the race record with five runners in 2013.

The first year he entered the race was 2000 – and he entered it with a bang by running four horses. In 20 of the last 21 runnings, he's been represented by at least one horse. His only miss was in 2003, the year Funny Cide won it. Pletcher was at Churchill Downs that year, but just watched the race from the stands.

The trainer was asked what was the first Kentucky Derby he remembered.

“The first one I really recall was Affirmed (in 1978),” he said. “I'd watched a few on TV in the years before that (Bold Forbes in '76 and Foolish Pleasure in '75), but Affirmed's race got to me. I watched it in New Mexico where my Dad was running horses and I was a 9-year-old. Steve Cauthen (Affirmed's rider) was only 16. I related to that.”

When was the first Derby he saw in person?

“I was with Wayne (Lukas) from 1990 through 1995 and he ran a bunch of horses in the Derby those years (11 all told, including '95 winner Thunder Gulch), but I was working with the New York string,” he recalled. “My first in-person one was in 1999 (won by Lukas' Charismatic). I ran More Than Ready in the WHAS Stakes for 2-year-olds (he won it) earlier on the card and stuck around to watch the race. (He had More Than Ready back the following year — 2000 — in the Kentucky Derby – where he ran fourth – along with three other starters.) That was the first year I started running horses in the Derby.”

The trainer noted one asterisk on his Derby record.

“I actually wasn't here last year (when the race was shifted to the first Saturday in September),” he said. “I was in New York at Saratoga. Wayne (Lukas) was good enough to stable my horse (Money Moves) and saddle him.”

Time moves on. Pletcher's latest remarkable chapter of Derby history will go in the books Saturday.

BROOKLYN STRONG – Mark Schwartz's Remsen Stakes (G2) winner Brooklyn Strong was one of the last Kentucky Derby winners to arrive at Churchill Downs this week, coming in Tuesday morning, and he was among the last to train Friday, the final day of training before the Kentucky Derby. He jogged once around the track and then galloped slow once around.

“He's as fit as I can get him on the one week notice,” trainer Danny Velazquez said. “I'm just happy to be here. I have nothing to prove. He was a $5,000 purchase and we're in the Kentucky Derby. We made the one-percent (of the foal crop).”

ESSENTIAL QUALITY, MANDALOUN – Godolphin's Essential Quality and Juddmonte's Mandaloun had their final training session prior to Saturday's Kentucky Derby.

The Brad Cox duo galloped about 1 ½ miles at 5:15 a.m. A new member of the Cox team joined them for training this morning – Brad's youngest son Brodie.

“That'll do it,” Cox said. “Everyone's here and we're ready to go.”

HELIUM, SOUP AND SANDWICH – D J Stable's Helium and Live Oak Plantation's homebred Soup and Sandwich both galloped Friday morning for trainer Mark Casse.

HIDDEN STASH – Trainer Vicki Oliver got an early start on the morning, leaving Lexington at 3:30 to get to Churchill Downs by 5:15 to give BBN Racing's Hidden Stash a 1 ¼-mile gallop.

“He had an easy gallop this morning and I am undecided on what he will do tomorrow morning,” said Oliver, who has entrants in races one and 10 on Friday's 13-race program.

Oliver, who is saddling her first Kentucky Derby starter, will give a leg up to jockey Rafael Bejarano on Saturday afternoon. Hidden Stash will represent the 11th Derby mount for Bejarano whose best previous Derby finish was fourth on Papa Clem in 2009.

“I hope he breaks clean tomorrow and gets a good position,” Oliver said. “You have a long run to the first turn. I hope they go fast up front … I'd like to see a :46 or :47 half-mile, not a :48 like in the Blue Grass (G2).

HIGHLY MOTIVATED – Klaravich Stables' Highly Motivated galloped about 1 3/8 miles Friday morning for trainer Chad Brown.

HOT ROD CHARLIE – The Hot Rod Charlie contingent rolled out early Friday morning to catch their hero going through his final bit of track work in front of Saturday's Kentucky Derby 147.

The well-made colt had been a regular all week for the special 7:30-7:45 a.m. training session reserved for Kentucky Oaks and Kentucky Derby runners only. But Friday he stepped onto the big Churchill Downs oval at 5:30 with regular exercise rider Jonny Garcia at the controls.

He also had his superstar stable pony – the 20-year-old Hall of Famer Lava Man – on his hip and the colt and his “Coach” (as “Lava” is known around the barn) toured the Churchill oval together, never picking up any more steam than a simple jog.

As “Charlie” returned to the six-furlong gap along the outer rail, he moved past his collection of stable admirers, including his trainer, two-time Derby winner Doug O'Neill. The colt proceeded to throw his head repeatedly and pulled hard on his reins. His message was obvious: He wanted more, quite a bit more. The “Charlie” crew all smiled and bumped fists. Their boy was locked and loaded for his historic Saturday assignment.

KEEPMEINMIND – Keepmeinmind, who has been among the first Kentucky Derby contenders on the track each morning, was joined by about a dozen other Derby contenders as he went out for his usual 1 ½-mile gallop at 5:15 a.m. A little later in the morning, trainer Robertino Diodoro, who will be saddling his first starter in the race, was all smiles as he fed the colt carrots and said everything was “great” with the horse.

Diodoro also reported that Ava's Grace, who had to be scratched from the Kentucky Oaks, only has a minor injury and is expected to resume training next week. She had been sent to Hagyard Equine Medical Institute for a full evaluation Wednesday.

KING FURY – Fern Circle Stables, Three Chimneys Farm's and Magdalena Racing's King Fury put in a 1 ½-mile gallop right after the track opened early Friday with exercise rider Danny Ramsey.

“Everyone in the barn is ready,” said trainer Kenny McPeek. The colt will start from the No. 16 post with Brian Hernandez Jr. riding.

World heavyweight boxing champion Tyson Fury is still expected to be part of King Fury's entourage for the walkover from the barns to the paddock Saturday. McPeek extended the offer for the boxer to attend this week, which was accepted.

LIKE THE KING – M Racing Group's Like the King jogged a mile at 7:15 with jockey Drayden Van Dyke aboard alongside a pony with Blake Heap aboard.

Heap, who is overseeing the preparation of Like the King here for Wesley Ward who has a mammoth stable housed at Keeneland, said plans for Derby morning are to be determined.

Heap put the saddle on Tea Olive to win Thursday's fourth race and give Ward his 1,998th career victory. Ward has two more runners entered today on the eve of his first Kentucky Derby starter.

However, there is Kentucky Derby experience in the Ward camp with Van Dyke signed on for his third Derby ride. Van Dyke's agent is three-time Kentucky Derby-winning rider Gary Stevens who is wearing several hats this week working for Fox Sports as well as managing some horses at Lone Star Park in Texas.

“Drayden is like family to me,” said Stevens, who has had Van Dyke's book for the past month and a half. “We talk a lot and he picks my brain and asks questions.”

Stevens rode in the Derby 22 times with his first mount coming in 1985 with Tank's Prospect for D. Wayne Lukas. That Derby marked the first time the then 22-year-old Stevens came to Churchill Downs.

MEDINA SPIRIT – Zedan Racing Stables' Medina Spirit galloped 1 ½ miles during the special 5:15 a.m. training time with exercise rider Humberto Gomez.

MIDNIGHT BOURBON, SUPER STOCK – Winchell Thoroughbreds' Midnight Bourbon and Erv Woolsey's and trainer Steve Asmussen's father Keith's Super Stock both jogged Friday morning, with trainer Steve Asmussen on the pony with Super Stock, while assistant Scott Blasi was out with Midnight Bourbon.

O BESOS – Bernard Racing, Tagg Team Racing, West Point Thoroughbreds and Terry L. Stephens' O Besos had a light gallop around 6:15 a.m. Friday.

Hands-on horseman Greg Foley was seen giving his prized Derby contender a bath following training.

“It's just what we do,” Foley said. “We love our horses and treat everyone like they're a Derby contender.”

ROCK YOUR WORLD – The tall Candy Ride colt went trackside at 6:30 Friday morning to put in his last bit of exercise en route to Saturday's 147th edition of the Run for the Roses.

Regular morning rider Javier Meza was aboard but he didn't have a lot of work to do. Trainer John Sadler had deemed Friday's activities to merely be a jog one time around the track alongside the barn's stable pony.

“He's done all his training,” the conditioner said. “He's ready. He'll walk tomorrow morning.”

Rock Your World, three for three this year (including a tally in the Grade 1 Santa Anita Derby) in his brief career so far, had a fine feather placed in his growing cap when it was announced that his breeding rights had been purchased by the historic Lexington farm Spendthrift, where he'll stand stud upon his retirement.

He's listed as the 5-1 second choice in tomorrow's early Derby wagering and will have the nation's second-leading rider – Joel Rosario – on board as they break from post 15 in the mile and one-quarter classic.

THE FIELD FOR THE $3 MILLION KENTUCKY DERBY PRESENTED BY WOODFORD RESERVE (GI) – Known Agenda (Irad Ortiz Jr., 6-1), Like the King (Drayden Van Dyke, 50-1), Brooklyn Strong (Umberto Rispoli, 50-1), Keepmeinmind (David Cohen, 50-1), Sainthood (Corey Lanerie, 50-1), O Besos (Marcelino Pedroza, 20-1), Mandaloun (Florent Geroux, 15-1), Medina Spirit (John Velazquez, 15-1), Hot Rod Charlie (Flavien Prat, 8-1), Midnight Bourbon (Mike Smith, 20-1), Dynamic One (Jose Ortiz, 20-1), Helium (Julien Leparoux, 50-1), Hidden Stash (Rafael Bejarano, 50-1), Essential Quality (Luis Saez, 2-1), Rock Your World (Joel Rosario, 5-1), King Fury (Brian Hernandez Jr., 20-1), Highly Motivated (Javier Castellano, 10-1), Super Stock (Ricardo Santana Jr., 30-1), Soup and Sandwich (Tyler Gaffalione, 30-1), Bourbonic (Kendrick Carmouche, 30-1). All starters will carry 126 pounds

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