TDN Q&A With Will Douglass

With the yearling sales now in full swing, TDN quizzes industry figures on past purchases, life during lockdown and their perspective on the sales over the next few weeks. Today, Will Douglass answers our questions.

TDN: What was your best yearling purchase over the last few years? And your favourite?

WD: I bought two fillies with Al Wasmiyah Stud called Traisha (Ire) (Invincible Spirit {Ire}) and Dhabyah (GB) (Australia {GB}). Traisha has been listed and Group 3-placed and holds an entry in the G1 British Champions Fillies and Mares S. on Champions Day. Dhabyah won her first start and then was just beaten on her second start, but William Haggas had been encouraging about her so I hope she can take another step forward. Al Wasmiyah is owned by two brothers from Qatar, Ali and Mohamed Bin Hamad, and they are developing a strong broodmare band.

My favourite yearling purchase would be Wet Sail (Henrythenavigator) who I bought with Charlie Fellowes in 2013. He was the first horse we bought together in his first year of training. He was pretty good and after winning his maiden was sold to stay in the yard for a new owner and went to the GI Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Turf. He was a flag bearer early on which got both of our names out there.

I purchased Peniaphobia (Ire) (Dandy Man {Ire}) as a horse in training early in my career and he went on to a win a Group 1, multiple group races, be champion sprinter and win over £3.3 million in prize money in Hong Kong. He really helped my business grow over there and put my name on the map.

TDN: Are there any positive you have taken from how the sales have been conducted this year?

WD: I think the market correcting itself is overdue, particularly in the UK. I hope that with the market being down it might encourage people that have otherwise been scared off by the sums of money that yearlings cost to reconsider; perhaps we will get a few new people coming in over the next year or two. We are very lucky to have one of the best resale markets in the world and everyone wants our product, which is a very positive selling point to give to new people. Regardless of the Covid-19 situation that we are faced with people seem to have so much passion for racing and the market has been fairly resilient so far to a level. I think the top level will always hold up, much like it does in the art or property market.

TDN: How has your business adapted?

WD: We have kept in touch with clients as much as possible and already use WhatsApp and Zoom, etc. As we have not been travelling so much we have had more time to look into finding new clients and potential opportunities in the market. It is hard not being able to travel to places and meet people face-to-face which we do a lot of but everyone is in the same boat and it is a situation we all have to make the best of. The online bidding process is something that has to be done in the current climate, but a lot of owners come to the sales for the theatre of it and I fear that will be lost if online takes over and it will be to the detriment of the sales in the long term.

TDN: In general what are your thoughts on the 2020 yearling catalogues? And what new stallions’ progeny are you most looking forward to?

WD: The catalogues this year are as strong as ever and it is probably a fantastic opportunity for someone new into racing and breeding to buy top-level bloodstock. I think the Great British Bonus is a good incentive to buy British-bred fillies and I hope that will help the British breeding industry in the long term.

Postponed (Ire) was a horse Charlie bought as a yearling and I am looking forward to seeing his first yearlings. He was a brilliant horse, who was a very good-looking yearling with substance and power.

I was really impressed with the yearlings by Almanzor (Fr) at Arqana; I thought they were good-looking horses with quality. Profitable (Ire) is another whose yearlings I have liked and being a son of Invincible Spirit (Ire), who is proving to be a sire of sires, he would be quite high on my list.

TDN: Did you develop any new interests or hobbies during lockdown?

WD: I very much enjoyed gardening and cooking. I was also lucky enough to be able to play a lot of tennis and have endless walks with my wife, Katie. She works very hard in London normally, so it was very special for us to both be in the same place for more than a few days at a time.

TDN: Who is the most interesting person you know?

WD: Jassim Al Ghazali has been a pretty fascinating person to work for. He was a professional footballer, then has started one of the biggest car dealerships in Qatar whilst taking the racing scene there by storm. He has been champion trainer a number of times. He works so incredibly hard, when he comes over to buy horses to take back to Qatar the work he has done on the sale beforehand is quite staggering. He writes every horse’s form out on their pedigree page in Arabic so he can process it quickly at the sale. It shows how dedicated you have to be to get to the top. On top of this he has a son who rides at Olympic showjumping level in Qatar and presents on their racing channel and a son who is rivaling him in the trainer’s championship. He is Qatar’s version of Aidan O’Brien. He has also been a great client and support to me over the years.

TDN: What’s one mistake (if any) you made in your career, and what did you learn from it?

WD: I have probably made more than one mistake. I did bid on the wrong horse once at the Tattersalls Autumn Horses in Training Sale. It was late in the day and I was bidding on two horses very close together; there were withdrawals between the two lots and having bought the first one and signing the ticket I slightly lost track. Without looking I panicked thinking I was going to miss my next one and started bidding. Luckily I realised my error before it was too late. Lesson learned and I now always double and triple check my catalogue to the board before I bid.

I think the key for someone young is to have a client that puts confidence and trust in you and listens to your judgement and gives you some free rein. Working that way I feel is one of the best ways to have success and it teaches you a lot in a short space of time.

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TDN Q and A With Eddie Linehan

With the yearling sales now in full swing, TDN quizzes industry figures on past purchases, life during lockdown and their perspective on the sales over the next few weeks. Today, Eddie Linehan answers our questions.

TDN: What was your best yearling purchase over the last few years? And your favourite?

EL: [G1 Matron S. winner] Champers Elysees (Ire) (Elzaam {Aus}) was the best I’ve ever signed for. She was late on the third day of the Tattersalls Ireland September Yearling Sale and was a standout yearling that day. Johnny Murtagh had loved her and was gone home by the time she was in the ring so I bid on her.

My favourite yearling was a Piccolo (GB) filly called Nantany (GB). She was an 800gns purchase in my first year buying breezers. She went on to win a listed race in Germany and was stakes placed a few times.

TDN: Are there any positives you have taken from how the sales have been conducted this year?

EL: Sales have been much the same really bar the masks and keeping your distance from people. All concerned are working hard and it seems to be working well.

TDN: How has your business adapted?

EL: I haven’t had to adapt too much so far bar trying to be as selective as possible. I have been busy buying my own breeze-up horses and a few yearlings for Johnny Murtagh.

TDN: In general what are your thoughts on the 2020 yearling catalogues? And what new stallions’ progeny are you most looking forward to?

EL: All the catalogues so far have been good. I was very impressed with the Tattersalls Ascot sale recently. On paper the Tattersalls Ireland September Yearling Sale looks strong so I’m really looking forward to that.

I’ve been very impressed with the Ribchesters (Ire) I have seen so far. There have been some nice horses by Profitable (Ire) and Cotai Glory (GB) too.

TDN: Did you develop any new interests or hobbies during lockdown?

EL: No new hobbies during lockdown bar eating a lot more as my sister Kate and fiancee Ellen were off work and it was like a bake off every day. I had plenty of help mucking out though so I wasn’t complaining.

TDN: Who’s the most interesting person you know?

EL: The most interesting person I know is Eugene O’ Sullivan. He’s a remarkable man.

TDN: What’s one mistake (if any) you have made in your career, and what did you learn from it?

EL: I’ve made lots of mistakes but last year I said I wasn’t going to buy anything unless I really loved it. I bought two in particular that I only half-liked as the money was ok and neither worked out great.

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TDN Q & A With Nicolas de Watrigant

With the yearling sales now in full swing TDN quizzes industry figures on past purchases, life during lockdown and gets their perspective on the sales for the next few weeks. Nicolas de Watrigant answers our questions today.

TDN:  What was your best yearling purchase over the last few years? And your favourite?

NDW: From the 2014 Arqana August sale, Qemah (Ire) (Danehill Dancer {Ire}) was definitely one of the very best horses I have purchased. Winning both the Prix Rothschild G1 at Deauville and the G1 Coronation S. during Royal Ascot, in front of Her Majesty The Queen, is one of my fondest racing memories and it was an amazing moment for H.E Sheikh Joaan Al Thani and all of the filly’s connections.

TDN: Is there any positive you have taken from how the sales have been conducted this year?

NDW: Absolutely, I think the different sales companies in the world have managed to adapt really well to the problem, whether with re-arranging sales dates and locations, but also giving more information to the buyers online and the opportunity to buy online. This is a great step for the future. The sales companies who have combined their efforts and worked together, have in my opinion, shown true intelligence in a difficult moment.

TDN: How has your business adapted?

NDW: As we couldn’t move from home during lockdown, it gave me the opportunity to spend time with my family while I was getting news on the phone from the different trainers that we’re working with. It enabled me to continue reporting to our clients. As soon as lockdown was over we got back to a nearly normal life, on mornings going to the various training centers in France to check clients’ horses and sourcing new horses for others clients. We realized that, in France, we were lucky that racing resumed shortly after, even though we weren’t able to attend racing.

TDN: In general what are your thoughts on the 2020 yearling catalogues? And what progeny of new stallions are you most looking forward to?

NDW: The 2020 Arqana Select Sale catalogue appears to be a very good vintage with the offspring of many proven stallions such as Galileo (Ire), Dubawi (Ire), Sea the Stars (Ire), Frankel (GB), Kingman (GB), Lope de Vega (Ire), Invincible Spirit (Ire), Le Havre (Ire), Siyouni (Fr), Kodiac (GB), Wootton Bassett (GB), Dark Angel (Ire), etc. I believe that it really is a year of opportunities, and the chance for owner/breeders to get into big European families from England, Ireland, Germany and Italy at more reasoned prices.

The Arqana Select Sale has proved over the years that it is a great source of top class horses, more recently with G1 horses like Sottsass (Fr) (Siyouni {Fr}) who won the French Derby for Peter Brandt, or with Uni (GB) (More Than Ready) who is a Breeders’ Cup Mile & triple Grade I winner in the USA, which I was lucky to purchase in association with Bradley Weisbord for Madaket and their partners.

As for the new stallions, I am naturally looking forward to see the first yearlings of Al Wukair (Ire), whom I purchased as a yearling for Al Shaqab Racing. Al Wukair won the G1 Jacques le Marois as a 3-year-old just like Kingman and Dubawi, and was a close third in the G1 2000 Guineas to another young and talented horse, Churchill (Ire) (Galileo {Ire}).

TDN: Did you develop any new interests or hobbies during lockdown?

NDW: I think my wife, Meryl, was hoping for me to improve my cooking skills during that time, but it didn’t happen. I love gardening, during lockdown it was a great excuse for me to exercise this passion with my kids.

TDN: Who’s the most interesting person you know?

NDW: Without hesitation I would say Mrs. Tsui, the owner of Sea The Stars, who I am lucky to work with. I have a lot of admiration for what she has achieved in her life. Mrs. Tsui won the Arc twice with both the incredible mare Urban Sea (Miswaki) and her son Sea The Stars, nearly three times with Sea Of Class (Ire) (Sea The Stars {Ire}) beaten a nose by Enable (GB) (Nathaniel {Ire}). She is a women who is very knowledgeable in many sectors of many industries.

TDN: What’s one mistake (if any) you made in your career, and what did you learn from it?

NDW: I am always following my instinct to make the right decision but not listening to my wife was my mistake in the past, as she is great adviser. I now make sure I listen to her.

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