TDN Q&A: WinStar’s Elliott Walden

WinStar Farm has had many big years, but this one may prove its biggest to date. Kenny Troutt’s operation has bred, raised and offered for sale four 2020 Grade I winners: Sept. 5 GI Woodward H. hero Global Campaign (Curlin); Paris Lights (Curlin), who led home a one-two for WinStar Stablemates in July’s GI Coaching Club American Oaks; and Shedaresthedevil and Swiss Skydiver, who completed the exacta for their former WinStar-based stallion Daredevil in last Friday’s GI Longines Kentucky Oaks. Plus, it co-campaigns GI Hollywood Gold Cup S. and GI Whitney S. hero Improbable (City Zip), and stands Constitution, whose first-crop son Tiz the Law has racked up three Grade I wins this year before a runner-up effort in the GI Kentucky Derby.

We caught up with WinStar President and CEO Elliott Walden Friday after a productive two days of buying and selling at the Fasig-Tipton Selected Yearlings Showcase and before the start Sunday of the Keeneland September sale at which the bulk of WinStar’s yearling crop will be offered.

 

TDN: WinStar is perennially at or near the top among North American breeders, and of course it has campaigned the likes of homebred 2010 GI Kentucky Derby winner Super Saver, but this has been a particularly productive year for WinStar grads. What does that mean to the team at WinStar?

EW: It’s really exciting for the whole farm–it’s what everybody gets up every morning for and works towards. We try to compete at the highest level and it’s just really special for everyone to have four Grade I winners in a year.

Winning an Oaks, and having offered all four of them for sale makes it extra meaningful and really shows what we do. For the guys who work in the yearling barn, all these horses are the same to them–it doesn’t matter if they’re a Book 5 horse or a Book 1 horse. They treat them all the same, they care for them all the same. They all have personalities that make them different, but they love them all and it doesn’t matter if they’re a Curlin or a Daredevil.

I also think people wonder sometimes if we keep our best or anything like that, but that’s not the case. We have 90 yearlings this year, and all but three have or will be offered for sale and some of those were for vet issues.

 

TDN: Global Campaign sold for $250,000 to Sagamore Farm at the 2017 Keeneland September sale, but WinStar stayed in and is still a co-owner. How did that work out?

EW: Global Campaign was a beautiful horse. He had a little bit of epiphysitis in a knee, but [Sagamore President] Hunter Rankin and [trainer] Stanley Hough had zeroed in on him because of his pedigree. They were able to see through the epiphysitis, and asked us if we would be willing to stay in if they bought him, and we’re really glad we did. We’re looking forward to standing him at WinStar. Being a son of Curlin who has won from seven furlongs to 1 1/4 miles, with the speed that he has, we’re really excited about him. We’re also excited about the [GI] Breeders’ Cup Classic–he’s coming into it the right way. He’s on top of his game right now.

He is really exciting, not only because he’s a Grade I winner by Curlin, but the mare Globe Trot (A.P. Indy) [who died while foaling Global Campaign] had two Grade I winners from three foals (Bolt d’Oro) and all three of her foals are stallions (Sonic Mule).

 

TDN: Three-for-four Paris Lights was a $200,000 RNA at the 2018 September sale. What do you remember about her as a yearling?

EW: Paris Lights was a very nice Curlin filly–she was just kind of a plain brown wrapper, but moved well and was just one of those fillies who we wanted $250,000 for, but she fell through the cracks. There was nothing wrong with her. She was a pretty filly, but Curlin wasn’t as hot at the time as he is now.

 

TDN: Swiss Skydiver, who has earned more than $1.14 million this year and romped in the GI Alabama S., cost just $35,000 at the same September sale.

EW: Swiss Skydiver, as it’s been documented, had some vet issues that [trainer] Kenny McPeek saw through. We loved that filly all along. She was beautiful, had done everything right, never had any clinical issues with the X-rays that she had. She was always a big, strong, strapping filly.

 

TDN: Shedaresthedevil was a $100,000 Keeneland November weanling in 2017.

EW: Shedaresthedevil was a nice filly by a young sire in Daredevil, but she just fell through the cracks as well. We still have her dam [Starship Warpseed {Congrats}] and she is in foal to Uncle Mo. She has a 2-year-old Outwork filly that [Shedaresthedevil’s trainer] Brad Cox has who he really likes (Jemison, $150,000 FTKJUL).

 

TDN: None of the four WinStar-bred and offered Grade I winners carried enormous price tags. Do you think that should give buyers added confidence when shopping WinStar offerings? What does it say about the yearling market in general?

EW: That’s true about the business in general–nobody knows for sure what the future holds with these yearlings. That’s the great thing about it. That’s why you have so many people who are passionate about buying yearlings. They feel like they can pick out the next champion.

We sold [2017 GI Del Mar Futurity and GI FrontRunner S. winner] Bolt d’Oro (Medaglia d’Oro) for a lot of money ($630,000 FTSAUG ’16); and we also sold Grade I winner Eight Rings (Empire Maker) ($520,000 KEESEP ’18).

The thing about WinStar is that by offering our whole crop, you’re going to be able to pick out horses from $30,0000 to $1 million.

We try to raise them right–we’ve invested approximately $24 million in the last four years into our broodmare band. One great thing about Kenny is that everything we make at the farm is reinvested back into it. He’s never taken a dime out of the business, and we’ve continued to try to upgrade our bloodstock. I think we’re starting to see the fruition of that through our broodmare band.

 

TDN: After the Oaks, there was a lot of talk about WinStar’s decision to sell Daredevil to the Turkish Jockey Club ahead of the 2020 breeding season. What went into that decision and have you considered trying to bring him back like you did with Take Charge Indy?

EW: There have been discussions [about trying to bring him back]. At the time, we were just coming off a season where we only had 25 mares bred to him. It’s just hard to stand a stallion that isn’t very marketable. Obviously, it was a big mistake to sell him and I take that responsibility.

 

TDN: Micro-share syndicates and racing clubs have grown significantly in popularity, and likely will continue to do so after Authentic (Into Mischief)’s win the GI Kentucky Derby, as he’s co-owned by MyRacehorse.com. Paris Lights led home a one-two finish over Crystal Ball (Malibu Moon) in the CCA Oaks for your own program offering lower-cost access to high-end horses, WinStar Stablemates. Can you please explain the structure of that program?

EW: It was nice at the sixteenth pole with them coming down the stretch with five lengths back to another horse–you knew one of them was going to win it, but just didn’t know which one.

We started WinStar Stablemates as a pioneer in the space 10 years ago as a fan initiative. It was a compliment to the syndicates around like West Point, Starlight and Centennial, but at that time there wasn’t an engagement with the fans.

It morphed into a racing initiative two years ago, so we take our fillies who we’re going to put into training–whether it’s something that we buy and are targeting as a broodmare down the road or something that we don’t get sold–and we package them together and lease them to the Stablemates. They pay the training bills, they get the purses. It’s an exciting program, and there’s no way they could buy these types of fillies on their own, like a Curlin filly or Crystal Ball, who we paid $750,000 for as a 2-year-old at Fasig-Tipton Gulfstream.

So, we’re really excited for them. Both of those fillies are on the farm now turned out and we’ll crank them up again next year.

 

TDN: You sold a $570,000 Into Mischief colt (hip 433) to SF Racing, Starlight, Madaket, et al; and a $450,000 Speightstown filly (hip 448) to Robbie Medina at Fasig-Tipton Thursday. How did you find the market overall?

EW: I think the sale was solid and encouraging for the future and the sales season. It was a great start. Momentum from Fasig will hopefully continue into Keeneland. It seems like there are a lot of people looking for horses; the appetite for horses is good. Obviously, we’re in a difficult time, but I think if Fasig did one thing it gave you hope that the horse business is still alive and well.

 

TDN: You also made three purchases: a $400,000 Gun Runner colt (hip 366); a $200,000 Midnight Storm colt (hip 534); and a $100,000 Super Saver colt (hip 273).

EW: We really like the Midnight Storm colt who we bought. We’ve been very impressed with his progeny. We followed him closely given that he was by [late WinStar stallion] Pioneerof the Nile. The speed that he showed on the racetrack; his durability; the ability to handle all surfaces. For a mid-level stallion, I think he’s an exciting prospect. The Gun Runner we bought was very nice as well, and we bought a very nice Super Saver off great breeders in the Nardelllis.

 

TDN: How many will you sell at Keeneland September and who are some hips to watch?

EW: We have 75 yearlings entered in Keeneland September, and another 14 or so in Fasig-Tipton October. Some of the stand-outs at Keeneland include:

  • Hip 203, a Quality Road filly out of MGSW and GISP House Rules (Distorted Humor) consigned by Woodford Thoroughbreds.
  • Hip 208, an Into Mischief half-sister to champion sprinter Mitole (Eskendereya), also from the Woodford draft.
  • Hip 342, a Pioneerof the Nile half-sister to Eight Rings consigned by Denali.
  • Hip 512, an Uncle Mo filly out of Grade I winner Birdatthewire (Summmer Bird) offered by Machmer Hall Sales.
  • Hip 986, a Speightstown colt out of MSW and MGSP Galina Point (Saffir) consigned by Warrendale Sales.

 

TDN: This is an interesting year for Constitution–his current crop of yearlings was produced during his third season at stud, which is often a down year for a stallion. But, obviously, he’s done very well on the track with Tiz the Law and others and is the leading second-crop sire. His seven to sell at Fasig averaged $157,857. What did you think of his result there and what are your expectations for his progeny at KEESEP and beyond?

EW: I think at Fasig his sales were okay–they sold well for what they were. I’ve seen a few very nice ones at Keeneland who sell in Book 1. He’s in that cycle where the mares who he bred in his third and fourth years aren’t going to compare to what he bred this past year. He bred some phenomenal mares (220) this past season and was the most popular stallion we’ve ever had. The future is really bright.

There’s a real appetite for them, and some great people bought the ones who sold at Fasig–Alex Solis and Jason Litt bought two–so the right people are paying attention and trying to buy them.

We just had an Ohio-bred filly (Alexandria) finish third in the GIII Pocahontas S. The thing about Constitution is he really moves up his mares incredibly. We bred 12 to him this year ourselves will continue to fully support him.

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Authentic Ascends To The Lead In NTRA Top 3-Year-Old Poll

At every point of call in the 146th edition of the Kentucky Derby, Authentic found himself in front of his sophomore rivals. When the votes were tallied in the latest National Thoroughbred Racing Association (NTRA) Top Three-Year-Old Poll, the son of Into Mischief was again the one who could not be caught as he takes over sole position of the No. 1 spot from longtime leader Tiz the Law.

Authentic, who last held the top spot in the poll on March 23, captured the September 5 Kentucky Derby in frontrunning style, besting heavily favored Tiz the Law by 1 ¼-lengths. The victory not only provided Hall of Fame trainer Bob Baffert his record-tying sixth triumph in the 10-furlong classic, it earned Authentic 21 first-place votes and 354 total points as he improved his overall mark to five wins from six career starts.

Owned by Spendthrift Farm, My Racehorse, Madaket Stables, and Starlight Racing, Authentic previously annexed the Grade 1 Haskell Stakes on July 18 for his first top-level triumph. He and stablemate Thousand Words, who was a late scratch in the Kentucky Derby after rearing and falling the paddock, are both expected to contest the Preakness Stakes at Pimlico Race Course on October 3.

“If they're working well and all going well, they'll go to the Preakness,” Baffert said from Churchill Downs on Sunday. “We're planning on both if they're doing well.”

The Kentucky Derby marked the first loss for Tiz the Law since last November but the Grade 1 Belmont and Travers Stakes winner didn't lose much regard among pundits. The son of Constitution still earned 16 first-place votes and 349 points this week as he dropped one spot to second.

Blue Grass Stakes winner Art Collector, who had to miss the Kentucky Derby due to a minor foot injury, ranks third with 259 points, just ahead of Honor A. P. (258 points), who finished fourth in the “Run for the Roses.”

Kentucky Oaks runner-up Swiss Skydiver (134 points) ranks fifth followed by Thousand Words (131), and Oaks heroine Shedaresthedevil, who joins the top 10 in the seventh spot with 90 points.

Max Player, fifth in the Kentucky Derby, sits eighth with 85 points as King Guillermo (79 points), and beaten Oaks favorite Gamine (72) complete the top 10.

With Authentic taking over the top spot in the sophomore ranks, Baffert now trains the No. 1 ranked horses on both weekly polls as champion Maximum Security continues to hold down first place in the NTRA Top Thoroughbred Poll.

The 4-year-old son of New Year's Day earned 26 first-place votes and 340 points to maintain the lead position in the wake of his most recent triumph in the August 22 Grade 1 Pacific Classic Stakes.

Multiple Grade 1 winner Vekoma remains in second with 8 first-place votes and 260 points followed by Tom's d'Etat (3 first-place votes, 232 points) and fellow Grade 1 winner Improbable (198 points).

Champion Monomoy Girl moves up to fifth with 197 points after capturing the Grade 1 La Troienne Stakes on September 4, her third victory in as many starts this season. By My Standards, who won the Grade 2 Alysheba Stakes on the Oaks undercard, advances four positions to sixth with 150 points followed by champion Midnight Bisou (146 points) and Tiz the Law (128). Authentic joins the Top Thoroughbred Poll for the first time in ninth with 111 points as multiple Grade 1 winner Rushing Fall (78 points) rounds out the top 10.

The NTRA Top Thoroughbred polls are the sport's most comprehensive surveys of experts. Every week eligible journalists and broadcasters cast votes for their top 10 horses, with points awarded on a 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 basis. All horses that have raced in the U.S., are in training in the U.S., or are known to be pointing to a major event in the U.S. are eligible for the NTRA Top Thoroughbred Poll. Voting in both the Top Three-Year-Old Poll and the Top Thoroughbred Poll is scheduled to be conducted through the conclusion of the Breeders' Cup in November.

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Oaks Winner Shedaresthedevil Caps ‘Unbelieveable Day’ For Cox, Geroux

It was a thrilling Friday for the team of Brad Cox and Florent Geroux as the duo teamed up for their second Longines Kentucky Oaks (Grade I) victory in the last three years with Qatar Racing, Flurry Racing and Big Aut Farm's Shedaresthedevil.

“It was such an unbelievable day,” Cox said. “This filly has a ton of heart and Flo gave her the perfect ride.”

Cox had an eerily similar morning Saturday as he did in 2018 following Monomoy Girl's Kentucky Oaks victory. The Louisville native continued his regular routine with 10 of his horses recording published workouts.

“It's the life of a trainer,” Cox said. “Horses like Monomoy Girl and Shedaresthedevil make this job all worth it.”

SWISS SKYDIVER – Trainer Kenny McPeek reported that “all is good” with Peter J. Callahan's Kentucky Oaks runner up Swiss Skydiver despite exiting the race with a few cuts on a front ankle. Next race plans are “undecided” for the multiple stakes winner as of Saturday morning, according to McPeek.

Following the race, the trainer made a case for bringing the stallion Daredevil, who was sold to Turkey late last year, back to the U.S., noting he sired both Swiss Skydiver and the Oaks winner Shedaresthedevil.

“They need to get him back here,” McPeek said. “He's a good stallion.”

GAMINE – Hall of Fame trainer Bob Baffert reported that Michael Lund Petersen's Gamine “looked great” and was in good order the morning after finishing third as the favorite in the 146th edition of the Longines Kentucky Oaks.

Gamine set the pace in the 1 1/8-miles Oaks before being collared in the stretch by winner Shedaresthedevil and runner-up Swiss Skydiver. The loss marked the first time the daughter of Into Mischief had been beaten on the square in her five career starts as her only prior blemish was a loss via disqualification for a medication overage at Oaklawn Park.

SPEECH – Eclipse Thoroughbred Partners, Madaket Stables and Heider Family Stables' Speech is scheduled to return to her Southern California base Monday morning according to trainer Michael McCarthy.

“She had a tough trip all the way around,” McCarthy said of Speech, who finished fourth. “She got bumped at the break by Gamine and hit at the 7 ½ pole by Donna Veloce and checked by Donna Veloce at the six-furlong pole. She never got a chance to run her race.”

TEMPERS RISING – Mark and Nancy Stanley's Temper's Rising was back in Dallas Stewart's Barn 34 Saturday morning and doing well following her fifth-place effort in Friday's Kentucky Oaks.

“I thought she ran a great race,” Stewart said.

BAYERNESS – Belladonna Racing's Bayerness was back at Trackside Louisville – Churchill Downs' training facility – Saturday morning. Her next race plans are still to be announced.

HOPEFUL GROWTH – Trainer Anthony Margotta reported via text message that his St. Elias Stable's Monmouth Oaks (GIII) winner Hopeful Growth, sixth in the Oaks, came out of the race in good shape and would be leaving to go back to her Monmouth Park base at 5 p.m. Saturday.

DONNA VELOCE – Kaleem Shah. Mrs. John Magnier, Michael Tabor and Derrick Smith's Donna Veloce is scheduled to return to her Southern California base Monday morning following a disappointing run in Friday's Kentucky Oaks.

“She came back good,” said Carlos Santamaria, assistant to trainer Simon Callaghan. “We will try to get her as good as we can for the Breeders' Cup.

Making her first start in six months, Donna Veloce “had a lot of problems” in the race Santamaria said.

“Out of the gate, the five (Gamine) came in and hit the four (Speech) and she hit us,” Santamaria said. “She dropped the bit and ran off going into the first turn. He (jockey Ricardo Santana Jr.) took her to the outside to get her settled and going down the backside he could feel the field pushing him further outside. He ended up being wide all the way around.”

DREAM MARIE – Miracle's International Trading Inc.'s Dream Marie was scheduled to leave Churchill Downs Saturday morning following her ninth-place finish in the Oaks.

“She came out of the race OK,” trainer Matthew Williams said of Dream Marie, who trailed the field throughout. “We were hoping for a better result, but it was still a great experience.”

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Déjà Vu: Shedaresthedevil Springs 15-1 Upset For Cox, Geroux In Kentucky Oaks

Nothing is quite the same in 2020, and horse racing has been no exception. Churchill Downs' cavernous, nearly empty grandstands stood watch over Friday's Kentucky Oaks, delayed from the first Friday in May to September by the global coronavirus pandemic.

Fans may not have been present this year, but trainer Brad Cox must have felt a strong sense of déjà vu when he saddled Staton Flurry and Qatar Racing's Shedaresthedevil to post a 15-1 upset in the 3-year-old fillies' classic. Just one race prior, Cox had sent out his 2018 Kentucky Oaks winner Monomoy Girl to win the Grade 1 La Troienne.

“This is why you wake up every morning to get to win races like this,” Cox said. “This filly has been really impressive coming into the race and when she breezed with Monomoy Girl a couple weeks ago, we knew how well she was training. There were some tough fillies in the Oaks this year with Swiss Skydiver and Gamine. We are so thrilled to win a race like this, again, in our backyard. This has been a phenomenal day with Monomoy Girl winning the La Troienne then winning the Oaks with Shedaresthedevil. These are the days you dream of.”

Jockey Florent Geroux rode both champion Monomoy Girl and Shedaresthedevil to victory on Friday, and booted home a total of four winners on the Kentucky Oaks card.

“She had a great trip,” said Geroux. “She broke very sharp and I was able to stalk Gamine all the way. That was the plan, but sometimes plans don't always work out. Perfect plan today. The only question was whether or not I was going to be able to run her down. My filly ran an amazing race. It's been an amazing day.”

Shedaresthedevil came into the Oaks with wins in three of her five starts this year, but her long odds reflected the fact that she hadn't been successful against the division's top contenders. Her wins came in the G3 Indiana Oaks, an allowance race, and the G3 Honeybee, while she'd been beaten 13 1/4 lengths by Kentucky Oaks rival Swiss Skydiver in Oaklawn's G3 Fantasy Stakes back in May.

“We've taken the conservative route with this filly, kind of dodged the bullets,” Flurry explained. “We did that with the hope that we'd have a fresh horse for this.”

The strategy seems to have worked out, as Shedaresthedevil pulled away to win the Kentucky Oaks by 1 1/2 lengths. It was also the fastest Kentucky Oaks in history as Shedaresthedevil ran 1 1/8 miles over the fast main track in 1:48.28, besting Bird Town's 2003 time of 1:48.64.

A total of nine 3-year-old fillies lined up for the nine-furlong contest, including the supremely talented Gamine, who'd won her last two races by a combined total of over 35 lengths. Gamine went off at odds of 3-5, while G1 Alabama winner Swiss Skydiver, who'd also earned 40 points on the Road to the Kentucky Derby by facing males in the G3 Blue Grass Stakes, was the second choice at 5-2.

As expected, the speedy Gamine went straight to the lead from post position five, and Swiss Skydiver pushed through from her position on the rail to try to be second. Shedaresthedevil broke to her left, and muscled her way over to keep pace pressure on Gamine through the early stages, keeping Swiss Skydiver boxed in on the inside.

Hall of Famer John Velazquez kept a tight hold on Gamine through a first quarter in 23.39 seconds, but Geroux also had Shedaresthedevil under a good hold just a length off the leader. Swiss Skydiver and Tyler Gaffalione were at the rail in third, while Donna Veloce tried to push her way into contention between rivals in fourth.

Just after the half-mile in :47.92, Velazquez left the rail open for a few strides and Gaffalione tried to send Swiss Skydiver on through. He didn't make the gap and Velazquez aimed Gamine back at the rail, causing Gaffalione to check and wait for the overland route along the outside.

That veteran move by Velazquez gave Geroux an opportunity with Shedaresthedevil, and he took full advantage, getting first run on Gamine around the far turn. Swiss Skydiver ended up swinging three-wide at the head of the lane, but Shedaresthedevil had already set her sights on the passing Gamine and hitting the wire first.

Shedaresthedevil dug in to put away Gamine by the three-sixteenths pole, then held of the late bid from Swiss Skydiver on her outside to win by 1 1/2 lengths. Gamine checked in third, while Speech got up to finish fourth. The remaining order of finish was: Tempers Rising, Hopeful Growth, Bayerness, Donna Veloce, and Dream Marie.

Trainer Ken McPeek wasn't displeased with the effort from runner-up Swiss Skydiver.

“She ran super,” McPeek said. “That other filly (Shedaresthedevil) has been training extremely well. I've been watching her. Tyler (Gaffalione) rode her good. That's horse racing. There's no guarantees. She's been training super. I actually wasn't as worried about Gamine as I was about another filly running a bang-up race. That's what happened.”

Meanwhile, Hall of Famer Bob Baffert had been hoping for a stronger return to two-turn racing for the super-talented Gamine.

“She hadn't gone long and we can always second guess ourselves,” Baffert lamented. “Maybe I should have run her longer or whatever. But the winner was tough, you have to give her credit.

“(Gamine) just didn't have it. Turning for home, she was in a good spot and she was late switching leads and she never does that. I don't know if she just got tired or whatever. But down the backside he couldn't have been any better, he was in the perfect spot. She just didn't have it there.”

Shedaresthedevil (center, maroon cap) out-finishes both Swiss Skydiver (left) and Gamine (right) to win the Kentucky Oaks

Bred in Kentucky by WinStar Farm, Shedaresthedevil is out of the winning Congrats mare Starship Warpspeed. Initially sold for $100,000 as a weanling at the Keeneland November sale, the filly returned and did not meet her reserve when bidding stopped at $20,000 at the following year's Keeneland September sale.

Entered in race training with Norm Casse, Shedaresthedevil won on debut and was the first winner for her freshman sire, Daredevil, in June of 2019 at Churchill Downs. Qatar Racing purchased an interest in the filly and she was sent to west coast trainer Simon Callaghan, for whom she ran third in the G2 Sorrento, fourth in the Del Mar Juvenile Fillies Turf, and second in the Anoakia Stakes.

Sent back through the Keeneland November sale at the end of her juvenile season, Shedaresthedevil brought a final bid of $280,000 from Staton Flurry, and Qatar Racing stayed in for the ride. The filly was sent to trainer Brad Cox, and kicked off her sophomore year with a second-place finish to stablemate Bonny South in an allowance at Oaklawn Park. She added the pair of graded stakes wins to her resume over the course of 2020, and the Kentucky Oaks win improves her overall record to 5-2-2 from 10 starts for earnings of over $1.2 million.

“As bad as 2020's been for everybody, this makes it a little bit better, for us,” Flurry said from the winner's circle.

Co-owner Staton Flurry celebrates with friends after Shedaresthedevil brings home the Kentucky Oaks trophy

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