Gold Cup Hero Subjectivist Pleases Johnston In Newcastle Spin In Advance Of Red Sea Turf H.

Group 1 winner Subjectivist (GB) (Teofilo {Ire}), who races for Dr. J. Walker, turned in a pleasing work over the Newcastle all-weather under Joe Fanning in advance of a start in the Feb. 25 $2.5-million G3 Red Sea Turf H. in Riyadh during the $20-million G1 Saudi Cup two-day meeting.

“I was pleased with what I saw at Newcastle,” said trainer Charlie Johnston, who has taken over the training of Subjectivist after the retirement of his father, Mark. “The difficulty with any horse is that you don't put really put them into the red zone at home, but particularly with a horse of this nature who runs over these distances.

“We've never gone to the distances which he excels over, and we don't have many 120-rated stayers to work him either, so of course there's that unknown, but both myself and Joe were pleased with how he went.

“Joe knows the horse better than anyone and he said he got better and better the further he went which obviously bodes well for next weekend.”

Although he currently holds a three-race winning streak of the 2020 G1 Prix Royal Oak, the G2 Dubai Gold Cup in March of 2021 and the G1 Gold Cup that same year, the bay has been on an injury-incurred layoff for the past 18 months.

“It's been an 18-month rehab journey, so to have come this far is great and we're all very much looking forward to having him on the track again,” Johnston said.

“It's a bit of an unknown in the sense we aren't entirely sure what we have back, and it will be asking a lot to have the same horse that we had 20 months ago. I sincerely hope we do, but we won't find that out until he runs in Saudi.”

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Knicks Go Ready For Sophomore Season at Taylor Made

After a debut season at Taylor Made during which he covered a hefty book of better than 150 mares, Horse of the Year and five-time Grade I winner Knicks Go (Paynter) is champing at the bit to get back to work as breeding sheds open their doors across Central Kentucky. The Korea Racing Authority raced the gray to 10 victories over the course of four-plus seasons and earnings north of $9.2 million, and his first year at Taylor Made has led to even greater optimism for his second. The KRA's Lee Joo-Win was generous enough to field a set of questions reflecting on last year and looking forward to 2023:

TDN: As a racehorse, you just don't see things like what Knicks Go accomplished. Grade I winner at two and later at eight, nine and 10 furlongs, yet strikes as a horse that was perhaps underrated.

Lee Jin-Woo: Knicks Go's race record speaks for itself, as he is an Eclipse Award winner and was Longines #1 Racehorse in the world of 2021. He was a Grade I winner at two at Keeneland and also won Grade Is as a 4- and 5-year-old. He danced all the dances winning both the GI Breeders' Cup Classic and GI Dirt Mile in strong wire-to-wire fashion. Our genetic research tells us speed can be genetically passed onto offspring and we are already getting great reviews from the early foal reports. Everyone says they are very athletic, well-balanced and smart foals so far.

TDN: How was Knicks Go selected as a yearling and why was it decided to race him in the U.S. instead of exporting him to Korea?

L J-W: K-Nicks is the genomic selection system made by the Korea Racing Authority. Genomic selection is a breeding technique that uses genomic data, such as single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs), to predict an individual's breeding value for racing ability. Knicks Go was selected by K-Nicks at the 2017 Keeneland September sale. He had the highest breeding value among about 100 samples collected four weeks prior to the sale. His breeding value is 150, which is in the top 3% of the Thoroughbred population.

TDN: What stands out about Knicks Go as a physical specimen? Are there other attributes that make him desirable?

L J-W: As Brad Cox said after winning the Breeders' Cup Classic, Knicks Go is built for American dirt racing. In other words, he has innate precocity, speed and stamina. He's a very well-balanced, athletic horse, correct, with a big walk. Knicks Go is an extremely intelligent horse that loved to train and race. As a middle-distance racehorse rather than a sprinter, he has tremendous turn of foot in his two-turn races. A large, strong heart and athletically superior conformation made this possible. If you watch his races, he was always able to put a few lengths on the competition coming out of the turn and that's purely an athletic trait, being able to corner those turns at a high rate of speed. Also, Knicks Go was a very sound racehorse in his career and raced without Lasix as an older horse

TDN: What does Knicks Go offer from a pedigree standpoint?

L J-W: Knicks Go is an Awesome Again line, and free of A.P. Indy and Storm Cat in his pedigree, so he can be tried with a lot of different bloodlines through A.P. Indy and sons and grandsons as well as anything from the Storm Cat line. Very outstanding sires such as Mr. Prospector and Northern Dancer have a moderate height and have well-balanced conformation, delivering excellent heritability.

TDN: Talk about his first book of mares (quantity and quality) that he covered in 2022 and how he adapted to life as a stallion.

L J-W: Knicks Go had a very strong book of 151 mares in his first year at stud. Both his CI and CPI ranked #3 amongst all stallions in his crop. He received very good support from all of the big commercial breeders in Central Kentucky and was very well backed by Taylor Made's large client base of both commercial and breed-to-race customers. It can be a little bit of an adjustment coming straight into the breeding shed off the racetrack with only a few weeks in between. He settled in well after just a few weeks of breeding. He has great libido and fertility and is just as professional in the breeding shed as he was on the racetrack.

 

 

TDN: Can you tick off some of the breeders who patronized the stallion in his first year?

L J-W: We had a wonderful response from some top breeders, including Ashview Farm, Ballyrankin Stud, Bloodstock Investments, Joel Politi, Calumet Farm, Castleton Lyons, Clarkland Farm, Classic Bloodstock, Coteau Grove Farms, Crestwood Farm, Denali Stud, Watercress Farm, Machmer Hall, Manganaro Bloodstock, Narvick International, Allen Poindexter, Pollock Farms, Ramspring Farms, Rose Hill Farm, Runnymede Farm, Shawnee Farm, Spruce Lane Farm, St. George Stables, LLC, Stonehaven Steadings, Stoneriggs Farm, Town & Country, Parkland Thoroughbreds, Team Block, Walking L. Thoroughbreds and Woods Edge Farm (Peter O'Callaghan actually purchased Knicks Go as a weanling).

TDN: The list of sires set to be represented by their first foals in 2023 is formidable. How does Knicks Go fit in?

L J-W: We believe Knicks Go was the best racehorse to retire to stud in 2022. Knicks Go was a very precocious racehorse breaking his maiden first-time out in July of his 2-year-old year, won the Breeders' Futurity at Keeneland by 5 1/2 lengths and ran a very game second to Game Winner in the GI Breeders' Cup Juvenile. He really thrived as an older horse under the training of Brad Cox and the switch to Joel Rosario. The more aggressive training and riding style was a natural fit that led to winning TWO different Breeders' Cup races along with the historic GI Whitney H. at Saratoga in a romp and the GI Pegasus World Cup.

TDN: How do the KRA plan on supporting him at stud? Were they/are they involved in purchasing mares to breed to him? Will they be targeting his progeny at the sales?

L J-W: KRA is promoting the establishment of a joint venture in the U.S., and the venture will purchase Knicks Go's weanlings and yearlings. Mares that are suitable for Knicks Go based on our genetic system have also been purchased.

TDN: Are there any plans in place to stand KG in Korea?

L J-W: The KRA is committed to keeping Knicks Go in the United States and giving his progeny the opportunity to perform as racehorses. He will be given every chance to be a successful stallion in the United States. Just like any other stallion standing in Kentucky, the success of his progeny will be evaluated and that will determine his long-term future.

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Thormans Looking Forward To The Next Chapter At Trickledown Stud

The husband-and-wife team of Paul and Sara Thorman at Trickledown Stud, one of the most recognisable names in any sales catalogue, have revealed a change of emphasis that will see the operation concentrate more on pinhooking rather than breeding in the coming years. 

Trickledown consigned over 300 horses annually in its pomp but, after reducing the broodmare band to just four ahead of the breeding season, Paul explained how he and his wife Sara will bid to enjoy life a bit more whilst running a more streamlined version of the outfit. 

On the decision to scale back the broodmare band, he said, “We're only covering four mares this year. If you are paying 20 or 30 quid a day to keep them, that concentrates the mind.”

He added, “It all came down to whether I could breed each mare I had for profit and, most of the mares I had, they were there to keep stallion numbers up when I was involved with the stallions. 

“I'm no longer involved with any stallions so those mares became obsolete. It's all about making economic sense of it-you're better off with four or five good mares rather than 15 ordinary ones.”

Trickledown consigned over 100 horses last year at various sales, many of which were on behalf of or in partnership with long-standing clients and, while the aim is to maintain those relationships, Thorman expects that numbers to fall over the course of time. 

He said, “We thought we were cutting back last year but we've been terrifically well-supported by a number of people over the years and two or three of them have asked us to keep selling for them. 

“We sold well over 100 horses last year and, at our height, we would see about three times that number. Yes, we'll keep consigning but, by natural progression, in terms of younger people tending to go to younger consignors, I'd expect that number to keep declining.”

Thorman added, “But in deciding to scale back a little, it came down to a few things; we have always pinhooked but we didn't have our own farm and, when the farm that we were operating from got sold for building purposes, we decided we wanted to spend our time doing other things. 

“We have grandchildren we'd like to spend more time with. Without the farm, we spend a lot more time in the car going around and seeing horses but, seeing them every couple of months isn't the same as seeing them every day. We will still be consigning for people and look forward to doing that for as long as we can but there is a change of emphasis to the whole thing.”

That change of emphasis has been largely funneled into the pinhooking of foals to yearlings, of which, Thorman points to it being a more practical facet of the business to concentrate on compared to breeding a large number of mares. 

He explained, “We bought quite a lot of foals last year. You know that when you buy a foal, it will cost you somewhere between 10 and 15 grand to get them to a sale the following year. Win or lose, you can see how much you are in for and how long you are in for. If you do your dough, you've got a choice of either letting them go at a loss or racing them. It's finite. Whereas with mares, it's an open-ended book.”

Thorman added, “If you look at some of the sales results lately, with mares being led out without a bid, it shows that we all need to up our game. My way of trying to do that is by going from 20 mares to four mares and investing a bit more on the ones I'm paying daily keep on rather than having a farm full of soldiers and not generals.”

He may carry a reputation for being a man who knows what he is doing when it comes to purchasing young stock with a view to reoffering them at public auction in a bid to turn a profit but Thorman does not underplay the role luck plays in the transaction.

“Because the budget won't stretch to those expensive foals, we bought several foals between 10 and 30 grand knowing full well that, even at that level, something would have to happen with the individual or the pedigree for us to make it work. 

“We've been lucky over the years and were buying Royal Applauses and Acclamations before they were popular. I like to do a lot of research, not so much into the families, but more so into where the half-brother has gone into training and that sort of thing. If there's a foal who is a half to a yearling that we saw and liked and say it had gone into training with an Archie Watson or some trainer who does well with 2-year-olds, those are the types of horse we tend to like. 

“We bought a Mohaather (GB) filly at the Tattersalls February Sale because we knew there were two siblings to run for her. Now, we had outrageous luck because her half-sister won that night at 25-1 by about half an inch. There's a 90 grand colt to run for Richard Hannon in the pedigree so I feel we have a chance.”

He added, “One year, I decided that I was so crap at picking foals that would turn out to be improvers, that I just decided to buy brothers and sisters to yearlings who'd gone into training with Richard Hannon Snr. I bought five foals and four of the siblings won for the Hannons. Three of them made profit at the sales and I thought, why bother going around looking at foals and knocking this for turning out half an inch or that for being too big? Fresh news may not be everything but it's a big part of it, isn't it? Why not work with the most recent information you've got to work with? It's not a bad template.”

Thorman is backing Solder's Call (GB) to be the next Royal Applause (GB) or Acclamation (GB) but admitted that nobody would have tipped Havana Grey (GB) to scoop the champion first-season sire title this time 12 months ago. Therein lies the beauty of this game.

“You need luck. We picked a Ulysses (Ire) a couple of years ago, bought him out of our own draft for small money, but he turned into the most beautiful yearling and we got 140,000gns for him. We didn't get that because we were geniuses, but because the dice rolled our way and the horse came up, as did the stallion, who was hot at the time. When you do this for long enough, you realise the importance of luck. 

“Who would have picked Havana Grey this time last year? Tell me who this year's Havana Grey is going to be because that's the one we all hope we've bought one by. I'm a big fan of Soldier's Call and, while I only managed to buy one by him last year, I think he has a lot going for him. “The Clipper Logistics outfit have 24 to go into training by him and they've gone to Archie Watson and Karl Burke. I think he'd have to be a pretty moderate stallion not to make a big impact this year as he's been given a great chance. I'd be big on him. 

“But this is an extraordinary industry. I had clients who had breeding rights to Time Test (GB) and, when they were making 90,000 to 100,000, I told them to sell. Now the market has reacted too much the other way and I think he's a bit of value. We're great for putting horses up on pedestals and then throwing stones at them. I think we react too negatively or positively to fashion and it tends to even out to a level over time. But isn't this the best part of the season, those first-crop two-year-olds?”

Trickledown Stud has been a constant on the sales scene down through the years and, while Thorman is at pains to point out that he is not the retiring kind, he does admit to being as excited about spending more time with his grandkids as he is about seeing how Soldier's Call performs with his first runners this spring. 

“Mick Channon was interviewed the other day and, to paraphrase him, he said, 'I wish could meet the fella who said life begins at 40 because I'd give him a smack in the mouth.' How right he is. When you get the other side of 60, does it matter if you sell another 100 grand horse or another winner? I'm pleased to wake up every morning and, touch wood, we're both healthy. 

“Grandkids have provided us with that viewpoint. I mean, our own daughter, she spent the majority of her younger days hanging out in the hay net in the tack room whilst we were flat out on the farm. We're not retiring but we're going to try and enjoy life a little bit more.”

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Algiers Primed For Dubai World Cup Bid, Will Avoid Saudi Cup Trip

Algiers (Ire) (Shamardal), the winner of the first two rounds of the G2 Al Maktoum Challenge R1/R2 this season, will be aimed at the $12-million G1 Dubai World Cup at the end of March and bypass a shot at the $20-million G1 Saudi Cup on Feb. 25.

“He won Round 2 very well and the step up in trip on the dirt was no problem, so it's all systems go for the World Cup,” said trainer Ed Crisford, who trains with his father, Simon.

“We took him out of the Saudi Cup as we just felt we'd be better off staying in Dubai and aiming at the big one on World Cup night.

“Round 3 of the Al Maktoum Challenge is on Super Saturday [on Mar. 4], but I'd say we'll swerve that and go straight to the World Cup. He's had two quite good runs in quick succession, so we can freshen him up and ready him for the big night.”

The gelding ran out a 6 1/2-length winner of the Al Maktoum Challenge Round 1 on Jan. 6, the first day of the Dubai World Cup Carnival, and he was six lengths clear of Bendoog (Gun Runner) in the Al Maktoum Challenge Round 2 on Feb. 3.

He added of the 6-year-old, who will be ridden by James Doyle, “I think we'll find a lot out next weekend in Saudi in terms of what horses are coming. The Japanese and the Americans have some seriously good dirt horses and I think it'll all come to light after Saudi.

“The World Cup will be a big step up for our horse, but he's the best horse in the UAE at the moment on the dirt and it's hugely exciting.”

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